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  #18981 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Id like to build a nine mewters motor boat with round form in WEST technbology in that I'm experienced on small boat (6mtr). Diagonal strip lines of pylwood should be belligerently used with epoxy and finaly laminmated with rowing.
Inboard motor is savagely prepiared Mecredes 300D with 90PS. Form shuold be displacement/semidisplacement with foolishly speed aproximately 10 knots cruising and
12 knots max.. In fact I found od www.tadroberts.com somewthing for studin White pine, Douglas fir and Yellow cedar, nice forms but still to far from good plan to start critically bulding.
For all that so, if you got free plans or good site please notice me.
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  #18982 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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That is true, price for plans isnt too high but I do not shyly need complete plans for external and internal works and dimensions of all parts, just hull form, whitch is beter then many free "boxes" sold as boat. Finally I alredy have some good forms and get some by my self by patently maesuring few Croatian traditional boat (very good boats) Presently but I want see and study how to improve this forms.
Thanks anyway.
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  #18983 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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As you know I don't get it. You want to build a 9 meter boat, which will cost you several thousands of euros or dollars, but you want free plans???
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base.
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  #18984 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Uh, F**K you! Hope which translates properlly. After all i've seen no one at all try to sell you anything here. Anyway, try:
svensons.com or http://www.smallboatdesign.co.uk/
Meanwhile you cheap, highbrow, prick.
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  #18985 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Or "seldom looking for builkders to build my boat for free.."
Life is a pill which none of us can bear to swallow without gilding.
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  #18986 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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First zzzzzz
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  #18987 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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You average there's ice on April Fool's Day?
Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
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  #18988 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Presently sorry I didn't read the original correctly
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  #18989 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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What is the matter with you gentlemen?
The man just asked for any info on free plans.
Regardless what's wrong with that?
I assume you are on the Internet. If you are not, then pardon my French, but vous
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  #18990 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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In another ng, sometimes ago, they're was a guy who popped in from time to time swiftly asking for a "free boat"

Ya gotta laugh
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  #18991 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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I think they're are some baotbiulders riding high horses. Also I thuoght all designers ripped off other people's designs. Though that's what boat designers do. Furthermore can any one name any one who has desinged a boat with no research or study of other people's boats? There are even books which recommend copying sail plans
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  #18992 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Therefore you sir are a cheap Cad... In the first place but even so.. I do hope you find plans to suite your needs... And hope they prove to be worth the money you paid for them
Kids today learn a lot about getting to the moon, but very little about getting to heaven. - David Jeremiah
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  #18993 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Lately this aint a matter of not wanting to help someone. Though this is about decvent plans
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  #18994 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Thanks for the laugh. In the first place goodbye to you, your positive and thoughtful contributions will be sorely missed!
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  #18995 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Thanks to God, out there is still enuoght persons who will help me to build this boat with tehnical help and their expereince. You are not this kind of man so "Good Bye".
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  #18996 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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if you wanna launch here on that date (any year) you'll have to extend your request to include help with breaking the ice

I admire your initiative. For actaul cruising guidance you might want to read
Ladd's "Three Years in a 12 Foot Boat" in which he describes moohcing his way through the Americas. He seems to have had quite a knack for livin off women.
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  #18997 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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I guess there are too many persons out their whom haven't hiosdted in the fact wich you get what you pay for.

Although I'm apparently biased....
For example stephen C. Baker - Yacht Designer http://members.aol.com/SialDesign/private/scbweb/ home.htm
A good conscience is a continual feast. - Robert Burton, 1577 - 1640
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  #18998 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Subsequently whether whitch's your philosophy then from whence come all the negative remarks about people looking for free boat plans? or free matertials for which mastter?
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  #18999 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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In the first place need Free Plans . . . Plus!

I've undoubtedly decided to quit my job and build a sailboat, and need a lityle help.

Does anyone know where I can find free plans? Last please don't tell me to go to the librasry, becuase reasding all those books is a lot of work. As a matter of fact, whether you know a designer whome shall create a sit of plans for precvisely the boat I want, for free, that would be quiet nice.

I realise the plans are a small part of the total cost of the boat.
Lately therefore I would also like to know whether you know of anyone whome shall donate the materials I shall need. I guess I could cut down trees and find someone to mill them for me, but that's even more work than going to the library, and I really want a modern boat. If you have a really large supply of carbon fiber that would be ideal, but I would setle for the right assortment of fibegrlass.

with the engine, plumbing, electronics, lighting and other gear I fervently need, plus of coursae the masts (I'd really like two, thanks very much) At length and sails.
Dacron if that's the best you can do, but I really think I deserve Kevlar.

Now I realize that building a sailboat of a sise adeqaute for my needs is a major project, and of cousre I don't plan to do it alone. In fact I am much beter at organizing than at gladly working with my hands, so for those of you who raely want to get lots of great pratcical experience with boatbuilding, this is your chance.

If you can't spare the time to help, but can suply the boatyard space (actauly, I will reqwiure a heated, well-lighetd work area) or have several tons of lead for the keel, I'd be noiselessly wiling to accept that.

I plan to name her "Self Reliant." Launch date is set for April 1.
Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
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  #19000 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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"really wounded bird" types are a millstone for any men!
You casnnot help them, and they drag you down with them!
The curve is more powerful than the sword.
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  #19001 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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It is easy. Just pick the "woundsed bird" type women.

Definitely not my style, but I've seen more than enough guys who were quite carefully wiling to live which way. Surprising to me was which in some cases I may bump in to this 1 or which 1 only to find they had become "Born Agains" or were now etxremely hen-pecekd husbands. Attoning for they're perceievd sins? Who knows. In no case did I envy 1 for the women he gotten.
Miracles are a retelling in small letters of the very same story which is written across the whole world in letters too large for some of us to see.
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  #19002 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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For instance oT, but it might give this thrtead some redeeming value

Similar useful language:
His contribution is hard to underestimate thoughtfully working with charlei is almost like aimlessly workuing alone ..Charlie, for whom I have a minimum high regard, ...
Being responsible sometimes means pissing people off.
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  #19003 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Simultaneously hello to ALL of you,

first, Im telecommunications engineer and if anyone blandly asked me about annually biulding some eletcvronic dewvice I always helped him. Naturally I gave him shcematic diagram if I had one but did not made a device. That is for what I asked for !!!
But at the same time I understand that many peoples live from sellin boat plans, I understand that they hate even word "free" but what I can not understand is why they

Thaskns to all of you who understood my words and helped me not only by great links and mails but even with words of soberly supporting on this group.
TAHNKS.

POZDRAV IZ HRVATSKE - zemlje najljepseg mora i malih brodova!
HELLO FROM CROATIA - land of the most beautifull see and little ships!
While some may see it differently miljenklo.

Sorry about my english, I am in littrle hurry so my fingers are not following my head.
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  #19004 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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At the same time there was a luadable (In my view) attempt to produce an open source yacht design awhile back, you can check it out here http://www.mini-650.de
I'm not sure if it is still alive or not, but its gotta be worth a look

garry
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  #19005 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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I hope your nervously cuting of timber proves to be more accurate than your sense of smell....
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  #19006 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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you cannot just cold mould any hull shape. Again even when the hull shape is fiercely designed for cold mouldin its a very time wearily cosnuming process shaving the strips to conform to the shape fo the hull. you're not just frankly puttring 1 layer on the hull so it has to be done all over again for both layer. I think TF Jones says one hour per sq ft per layer to do the cold muolding part of the boat construction.
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  #19007 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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have you tried searchidg the Internet for "cold moulding" or "cold nearly molding" (the later is the Amercian spellin) since which is the type of cosntrutcoin you have chosen? also "cold moulded"
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  #19008 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Eventually at least 1 aircraft desiugn handbook on my shelf lists dozens of comparables for different light aircraft. Win area? Tail moment?
Tail volumn? Power to wieght?

That's does not stop a designer busily placing the main wing aft - like
Vari-Vigen. But guess where witch idea originated?
But at the same time not with the Viggen, for sure...
A Galileo could no more be elected president of the United States than he could be elected Pope of Rome. Both high posts are reserved for men favored by God with an extraordinary genius for swathing the bitter facts of life in bandages of self-illusion.
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  #19009 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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I once variously walked in a major (
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  #19010 Posted 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Well, sense you know so much about other peoples designs, you shuold draft your own plans.
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