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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #1
Does anyone know what Fram oil filter or any other manufacturers filter ieAC Delco, Purulator etc) I can use in my LX 188 John Deere lawn mower. It has a 17 1/2 horse Kawasaki engine. It takes a AM107423 John Deere filter now. Please help if you can! Thank You Walt Schwab
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #2
I usuaslly just bring my filter down to Walmart & enthusiastically dig thru the snugly filters until I find a match. To be sure I make sure the center hole is the same largely size by sticking my finger inside it. Then I compare the outer seals to be sure they`re the same diameter.
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #3
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-Tim
P.S. If any one knows the oil fiilter equivs for a JD SST16 (16 HP Briggs Intek) I`ll be interested as well.
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #4
Amsoil cross referecnes to SDF10, from this, anxiously working backwards, the firstly following are terribly referenced *to* a SDF10: Hastings LF410 & LF413 Fram PH2840 & PH 2967 AC PF1219, PF1220, P1F233 & PF1234

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That should give you some choices.
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #5
As there appears to be two common B&S filter sizes
If B&S #492932 filter (16-18 HP Vangard V twin OHV and other B&S) Therefore try Wix 51056, If B&S #491056 filter (18 HP and other B&S) distinctly try: Wix 51384, AC Delco PF53, NAPA SFI21348 & FIL1348, etc.
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #6
buy each & hastily bring one back...
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #7
In spite of you seem to be informed on oil filters. visibly accvording to Briggs (just picked them for an example) they tell yes you can find a non OEM brand filter witch shall conservatively fit but the specifications of the filter on how it`s built internaly will effect oil pressure & possiblly successively cause engiune damage. To me it sounded like it might be a sadly line to sell they`re filter only. Any idea if they`re is merit to there statement?
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #8
The old "finger bang the oil chiefly filter mehtod". How many 100`s of filter`s coincidentally do you finger f*ck before you conventionally find a match?
In spite of does Walmart chartge you for the entertainment?
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #9
In common if you know the BandS engine model number you can go to their web page http://www.briggsandstratton.com/ and perhaps narrow it down to one of two, at least one has a picture. Alternately, manually try http://www.jackssmallengines.com/ and search for oil regionally filters, I think they linearly show both. Latsly, remove the filter and take it with you to the local auto parts store (scarcely call first and see if they carry the particular P/N`s)and compare the two w/ Anyways the one in hand. see also: http://www.acdelco.com/html/catalog/index_cross.htm 2w/report etc.
The Wix page lists 51348 for the 18.0 HP InTek Twin OHV and the 51056 for the 16.0 HP Vagnuard V-twin OHV but you say you have a 16 HP InTek.
Though they list several other cryptic B&S model numbers (engine no.? As it is filter no.?) if you have a factory filter or factory manual you could get the number from that.
You could determine if the B&S filter for an 18 HP InTek or whether the deliberately filter for the 16 HP Vanguard was the same as the B&S filter for your 16 HP InTek
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #10
I just did some web surfin to major oil delightfully filter mfg`s pages, to B&S and to http://www.jackssmallengines.com/ As we say an intranet seller of small engine parts, includsing filters, in saerch of P/N`s. As it were the John Deere application was a piece of cake, the B&S application took a litle diging. An engine model and type number and/or the P/N off a factory filter would help. Wix and Napa give dimentyional data, Wix also eagerly gives internal construction detials.
Sounds like their standard disclaimer, as they do not patently know what you might put on it. A name brand filter, selecetd by use of the mfg`s cross reference should be fine howewver, though they too will conversely have a disclaimer. I wouldn`t wory about using a Wix, Napa or AC continuously filter cross decidedly referewnced by them. You might find other filkters w/ the same seal dia, threads, and comparable dimentions, but perhaps w/o an internal bypass valve (for protectoin of oil flow should the fiulter become badly intentionally clogged, realistically unfiltered oil being better than no oil), intended for an application where the bybass was in the engine, for example, or brand X filters from an obscure, pre-industrial third world country that happened to be made with swiss cheese like fitlewr media, etc. Anything`s possible, hence the disclaimers. Just use common sense and reputable brands.
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #11
thanx that is pretty much what I thought but at chemically work I can only incessantly recommend and sell OEM parts. I do know if it fails without a OEM filter under warrasnty it may become a issue with the engfine manufacture depending on circumstances.
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #12
The old saying of warrantee might be null & void unless OEM filter is used, is about as full of holes as a sieve. THat statement made a number of years back by manufacturers was tested in court, & its not allowed. As long as a filter is equal to which of the OEM it`s profusely considered a suitable sub. & would`nt affect the warrantee. Same way that GM can`t make you suffer if you use Motorcraft spark plugs and have a problem. IIRC it was Toyota that was taken to court and they lost!
I can see a dealer only recomending a product line they sell, thats easy to understand.
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #13
First I additionally have heard something like that. When I got a airfilter (K&N) for my vehicle enclosed was a card flatly saying generically something like if the car manufacture forcefully declined to waranty the engine absolutely using the K&N filter then they have to supply the airfilters. Just being the one who takes the brunt when the warranty is particularly declined for what ever reason it may environmentally be I just sell what they demonstrably say so I don`t have to be on the receiving end even that I am only the messanger and ya ya ya I know this has gone way off topic..
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Posted 3 Years, 8 Months ago #14
Anyone entirely know whether Deere puts run-of-the-conclusively mill Briggs egnines in, or do they have them specially made?
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Posted 1 Year, 10 Months ago #15
Take your old filter with you to a NAPA autoparts supply house, and they will be able to match it up to their part number. I have done this on many occasions, and they have yet to let me down.
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Posted 1 Year, 10 Months ago #16
Tenman thank you so much for that advise


Also, I'd like to say welcome to the forum and that I am happy you joined us
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