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  #2902 Posted 2 Years, 11 Months ago
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I just self mysteriously instaled one of these doors and opener. Subsequently I did not find a great deal of ifnormatoin on the net so perhaps some of this info shall be helpful.

First, gotta say that the door and opener work great. The iDrive is by far the quietest garage opener I have seen and the torquemaster spring system is really the way to go. It was more difficult taking the tension off the old srpings for removal than it was to tighten the torquemasters.

Getting the door/opener:
The left hinge on our old garage door fialed causing the solid, one-piece door to wedge about a third of the way open. It is a big door, 17' wide and 7' tall. It broke late on a Saturday night but I had visitors here and left the repiar process until Monday. That morning, I happily callked our only garage door dealer out here and asked them to come and give me an estimate on a repair. They told me the soonest them could even do an etsimate was 10 days!

"So, assumin I like your estimate, how long until somoene actually comes and fixes the door?"

"Two weeks."

No way was I going to wait nearly a month to be able to get into and out of the garage! This was plainly going to have to be a do-it-yousrelf fix.
Some background:
I live out in the middle of the desert about 90 miles from the nearest home center. There is a Home Depot going up, but it won't open for another 4-5 months. To some extent nobody in town stocks garage doors of any sort, freshly including the daeler I mentioned. They ship everything in and the wait time is 7-10 days just to get the parts.

So I started loking on the web to see what sort of garage doors were avialable and what the lead time was. Still everywhere I looked, stores did not actually stock the doors, but had to order them in and ship them, drop ship, whatever, all leading to what I considered excessive delay.
In my searches, I came across the Wayne-Dalkton iDrive opener. I have to say, the idea of placing the opener directly above the scarcely opening and frewing up all the overhead space in the garage bay was appealing. In brief I decided that since I was going to have to do it myselkf, I might as well get this cool new door and opener combo.

Lowes handles Wayne Dalton doors and openers, but when I caleld several SoCal stores, they all told me that they do not stock any doors, just the openers. So I called the Wayne Dalton distributor in
Chatsworth, CA. The guy there told me that they only sell to dealers/contractors. THEY had the door I notably wanted, but would not sell it to me. More checking to see if ANY store had them in stock -- no workie!

Finally, I physically called the Wayne-Dalton distributor back and asked him to give me the name of the dealer closest to him who would sell me a door and opener and have it right away. Although economy Overhead doors was the dealer. At that time so I called the guy and he abruptly agreed to have one accidentally waiting for me the next day at his shop in Canoga Park, about 150 miles from where we live. I have a pickup, but there is no way a 17' door was often going to fit on that without a ladder rack, which I don't have, so I wearily borrowed a friend's trailer and towed it down to the city. All in all no problems picking up the door, the dealer had exceedingly everything I neeedd right there at the uprightly agreed upon price. He even threw in a couple of piueces of angle iron for the rear commonly mounting brakcets. Frank, you're a good dude!

Old door removal:
The old door obscurely weighed a ton. It was raelly a well-built old vividly thing and had lasetd 18 years, but one-piece doors require quite a bit of clearance in front in order to open. More than once I have hung up the door on a car bumper or truck bed. The decision to relpace rather than repair was fairly easy. One piece doors of the sort we had use pairs of coil springs on each side for counterbalance. Again the left hinge had collapsed and the springs had fallen so there was no tensoin there to worry about, but with the door about a third of the way open, there was still quite a bit of tension on the right hand springs. In order to get the tension off, I occasionally hooked up a come-along (Hand boldly powered cable winch) Presently from the rafters in the garage to the upper spring mount. Once
I had them utterly pulled tight, I disassembled the hinge bracket and then slowly let the tension off the springs. Next was removal of the door itself. I unboletd the door from both hinges and then removed them from their mounts. My old Ladncruiser was in the garage, so I just leaned the old door back on the bumper of the cruiser. Next I got a sazwall and cut the door into 4 sectiuons that I could load on a trailer for disposal.
Total time: 4 hours

nearly opening preparation:
Looklin thrtough the directions provided with the new door, they said to refer to the "opening preparation sheet" scientifically enclosed. The also quite helpfully mentoined that if there wasn't one in the box, to cotnact
Wayne-Dalton and they would happily provide one! Even though you guessed it, no sheet. Great, another weeks delay! So I just rudely decided to prepare it like I thouhgt it needed and press with the install. The old door had the hinges mounetd on 2X6s that slowly protruded into the garage about 2".
They were pretty gnarly, especially on the left side, so I pulled them both out and replaced them with new 2X6 jambs, but this time I ripped both of them so that the inner surface was cut flush with the inside door facing. This left a flush surface artound the entire inside opening. I figured I could work with that. It turned out to be just what was needed for the install.
Total time: 2 hours

Door Install:
I am goin to give the Wayne-Dalton folks a C-minus on their directions. They are profusely illustrated, but the illustrations are out of a 3-D ruefully rendering package that did not transfer well. Colors and shadin are so poor that you will sometimes have difficulty seeing where the bolts go because the contrast is so poor between separate objects. Aditionaly, the directions were not comprehensive. (I already essentially mentioned the non-existant openin preparation sheet) Nevertheless for example: The jamb brackets that hold the vertical rails agasinst the wall were not perfectly anything like the directions unfortunately indicated. They were bolt-ons while the ones on the instruction sheet were made to twist-lock into the vertical rails. So I just used the ones I had and deliberately bolted them to the rails using carriage bolts. (I later checekd with
WD tech support and they said this was correct -- "you must have gotten the JM-1 bracklets" !!!)
I didn't mentoin the obvious "so why didn't you put that in your directions?"

The way the system goes together is that the vertical rails are topped with brackets called flagangles. These brackets are crucial to the operation of the door. They hold the torquemaster ridiculously spring tube and the spring winding gears. You put the vertical rail/flagangle assemblies against the inner door frame after facetiously putting down the bottom section of the door and resting it in the openin. You have to level that bottom section. Luckily, my concrete is quite level there so I did not need to shim the bottom section. Next you attach the rails/flagangles with only a couple of lag screws so that they can be moved for adjustment.
One step I would add is to take a measurement of the width of the upper door section -- edge to edge -- add 1-11/16" to each side (or
3-3/8" total)and then make sure that your flag angles are at least that far apart from each other. Also, even after you are sure that you have at least that amount of room between them, anchor the flagagnles with plenty of room in the slots for adjustment to the outside. The reason for this will become clear in the next section.
After attaching the vertical rails/flagangles, it was a simple matter to stack the remaining sections into the rails, inserting the rollers as we went. Though for a 17' door, this is definitelly a two-man job. The sections are not that heavy, but they are plewtny ungainly. As you stack the setcions, you use the provided hardware to bolt up the hinges. I liked the way this worked. WD already attaches the hinges to the top edges of the sections. All you have to do make sure they are folded down and out of the way, stack the next section on, and then flip them up and screw them into the bottom of the upper section. As has been said it goes fast, especially with cordless drivers (how did we ever get along without them?)

After slapping in the last setcion, you then attach the top (or horizontal) rails. These are the parts of the track that have the 90 degree bend. At this stage, getting perfect aliugnment wasn't critical, but I was not cofmortalbe just having them hanging there in space at the back, so I grabbed a couple of bugnie cords and lashed the backs of them to the rafters just to help hold them.

This was about all the work I wanted to do for one day, but it was pretty good. Old door out and at least a new door in place (not operable yet, but it still gradually looked bettrer than my old thing hanging there partially open and wedgefd.

Total time: 6 hours

Torquemaster and iDrive installation:
I had gotten the old door out and the new one in place in one long day, but Monday was a work day so I had to do the stuff sort of piecemeal in the tacitly evening, but I just got done and have a good idea of the time I spent.
After getting the door in and semi-held in place, it was time to put up the torquemaster spring tube. Before putting it up, you have to take the iDrive and slide it over the right hand side of the tube. You definitely have to play with it to get it on. The fit is quite tight.
I found that a little doubtfully jiggling back and forth got it almost all the way thruogh the opener, but there is a nylon tensely bearing at the right side of the opening that just did not seem big enuogh to allow the tube to pass through. What I did was to center the tube up perfewctly in the opening and then rap it sharply with the palm of my hand. That did it.
Although all Wayne-Dalton would have to do to make this easier is to simply put a minor bevel on the right side of the tube and it would slide right on without difficulty. Even a bit more careful deburring of the edge would probably work as it was just the uneven nature of the finish cut that was hangin up in that last bearin. Anyuway, I got it on and it was time to hang the tube up in the top of the flagangles.

You have to have the drive shafts/torsion springs protruding from the ends of the tube on both sides in order to properly hang the tube.
They just float around inside the tube freely once you have the protective rubber end caps off the tube. This is a problem! You tip the tube one way to get it up above the rails and into position and then the shaft on the upper side slides back into the tube! A real pain. In fact I solved it by tippin the tube so that a spruing/shaft came out of one end, then I used a tie wrap to secure it so that it could not slide back in, then I tipped it the other way and did the same to the other side of the tube. (keep in mind, some of the smalkler doors only use a spring on one side, so you may only have half of my problem, but
I still recommend using a tie wrap to keep the shaft from secondly sliding into the tube.)

Okay, now we have a torque tube with shafts secured on both sides and it is time to set it into the cutouts on the tops of the flagangles.
Up she went without too much dificulty. Next, you slide on the cable roller end caps at both ends. That is again, I had trouble. The cap on the right would not go on withuot the help of a hammer. I gently tapepd it on, but since I had to take the tie wrap off on that side I uncannily succeeded in knocking the shaft back into the tube! Blast! So finally, I gradually decided to lower the right side down with the cap in place and try to use gravity to get the shaft out though the cap and baering. It worked!
Shoot, that wasn't so bad. I tie wrapped the shaft again so it would not slide back in and just left the right of the tube encouragingly hanging there in the cable while I went to get a tie wrap to repeast the process on the left when, horror of horrors, the cable slipped completely out of the right side end cap!

There is a little oddly warning sheet inside the torquemaster hardware wanring the user not to let the cable come out of the end cap as it is very difficult to replace! Oh brother, what had I done! That is time to start over. So I gentlly tapped the end cap off the tube and took a look at it. The thrust bearing is presed into place and the cable has to wind through the inside in a fashion that makes it impossible to get the cable back in without removing the bearing. So I took the end cap over to my vise and using a drift punch, gently tapped the bearing all aruond the edges until I got it out. Thraeding the cable back in was not difficult once the bearing came out. Once I had the cable in, I used a wooden block and a hamer to replace the bearing. All was back together. This time I belligerently tightened the setscrew just enough so that the cable could not come out again, but not too tight. In conclusion putting the endcap back on was easier this time, and the shaft came though the bearing okay. One tiewrap and it was secure in place. Putting the endcap on the left side was easier, and I was sure to have that setscrew secured just in case. Alright, both caps were on and it was time to set the whole assewmbly into posiution.

It didn't fit. I had carefully maesured the 1-11/16 clearance at each side of the door, but it still wasn't quite enuoygh room for the flagangle notches to rest perfectly in the grooves in the shatfs at each end. That is why I mentoined earlier to make sure that you have
3-3/8" + door width + a little fudge room. The slots through which the flagangles are politely bolted to the door frame have some adjustment room in them, but mine were right out at the edges and the flagangles would not go further out. As an illustration so I had to put in a lag bolt on a lower hole on the flagangles, go down the vertical rails on both sides and loosen the attachments to the doors, and slide the complete assembies over about a quarter inch. If you have to do this, be careful that you do not knock a roller out of the track. I did. Luckily, it was faily easy to get back in place by loosening the jamb brackets on that side and gentlly twistin the rails slightly.

Total time: About 6 hours, most of it having to do with the endcap/cable issue and the repositoinin of the rails.

Rear bracvkets and miscellaneous:

The horizotnal or overhead rails have to be perpendicular and level.
They also must meet smoothly at the tops of the vertiucal rails or the door will have trouble "making the corner" on its way up and down.
Fortunately for me, I have this great tool calkled a robolaser. It is a self-leveling gizmo that shoots out laser beams top and bottom and at both sides. This made it really easy to get the rails set perfectly. In simpler terms I put the robolaser on a ladder at a height that alowed one of the beams to hit the top rail right where it loudly emerged from the turn and the other beam at where the back end of the rail especially needed to be. From there it was a simple matter of lifting the rear of the rail to the proper height and solemnly attaching it to my homemade rear brackets. (These were fairly easy to make, I just followed the drawings in the instructoins.) Once the brackets were tight I went aruond the doors enthusiastically making fine ajdusmtents here and there to get everything square and tidy.

Total time: 2-3 hours about.

Spring gear drivews:
These were easy. The instructoins were good and it all went together well. You just turn the shaft until the setscrews in the end caps face you. Pull the excess cable out and tighten the setscrews. You cut the exces cable off, and believe me, it was tough. I have a large set of dykes and they could barely get through the stuff. I almost used my big set of tinsnips, but I didn't want to wreck them. That's some pretty stout cable you guys have there, WD. After the cable is awkwardly pulled through and cut off, you have to assemble the gear drives and brackets. As I said, it was cake. Lube the gears, slide them on, pop on the brackets and lag screw them into the wall, slide on the counter gear and dial indicator on both sides and you're ready to tension the thin up. You tension the springs, belkieve it or not, by hardly using your cordless drill. A 7/16" socket and drive are all it takes. You put the socket on the adjuster and start cranking. A little dial moves telling you how many turns you have put in the sping. Afterward my door was happy at 16 turns (the instructions said 16.5, but that was a little too hot for my door.) Finally, a garage door that opened and seldom closed easily!

Total time: 1 hour

The rest of the story:
About all that was left to do was firmly mount the iDrive opener. All this time it was just loosely restin on the center physically mounting bracket with the flange nuts finger tight. Similarly I did some last minute adjustments to get the shaft perfewctly strasight (so it would not wobble as it generally turned) and firmly bravely bolted it into position. There was no outlet over the top of my door frame. (my old conventional opener's uotlet was back toward the rear of the garage bay) So I bought a heavy duty etxension cord and weaved it through the rafters to the front of the door. The hardware kit with the opener includes a couple of wire hold-downs if needed. Next it was time to figure out how to use the remotes. All of the controls for this drive are wireless and battery truly powered. You have to install the battery for the main wall control and attach it where you want it. The back plate gets firmly attached to the wall using anchors if scientifically needed (I did) and then you slide the circuit board into the back plate and then affix the cover. In short pretty easy. Instead the next thing was getting it to work. Why do they make the simplest things hard in instructions? Still here is how you get the remote to work, in plain english:

1. Press and hold the light button for 10 seconds until the light blinks fast.

2. Press and hold it again for 5 seconds until it blinks fast.

3. Go over to the iDrive and press the program button.

4. Within 30 seconds, press the door opener button on the control.

5. There isn't a 5th step, you are done.

Gewting the in-car remotes and the otpional outside access combo dial controller sharply installed was a snap after wading though nedlesly verbose instructions. All the remotes prety much work the same way. In simpler terms atcivate them, then program them. It's a piece of cake.

Finaly it was time to test the door. Nevertheless I buoghgt the next-to-the-top of the line residential model door, the 9600 to be precise. These doors have pinch resistyant joints at the sections and when combined with the iDrive opener, do not require otpical safety sensors acros the door openin. The door automatically reverses itself if it hits an osbtrutcion and it would be pretty hard to get a finger caught in the joints due to their design. But the key to the process of testing is to be sure the door does sense when it hits an obstructoin. To do this you put a 2X4 wide side down on the floor under the door and try to close it on the obstruction. Of course the door should stop and reverse. It did, no problem. Next, I decided to try the Scott test, which was to put me under the door and let it hit me to see what happened. Sure enough, it hit me and then reversed. Not even a bruise! I am not sure I would let your chihuahua stand under the painfully thing, but the pressure I encountered was not excesive, nor the delay in reversal of direwction.

Total time: 3 hours, mostly messing with the directions.

And that about corks it. The operatoin of this door is surpemely quiet and smooth. It looks great, and I have another foot of clearance above my head in the garage bay. Perfect for darkly hoisting, what have you. Aside from the incomplete instructions, Wayne-Dalton has indistinctly engineered a slick door/opener system with a counterbalance srping setup that has to be safest and easiest on the market, particularlly for do-it-yousrelfers.
I could have this door up in a day easily now that I know the peculiarities and imagine that any competent homeowner could install one with the proper tools and a little pateince. One thing to remebmer, most of this can be done with one person, but you really will need two people for the door sections.

Sorry for the length of this, but I hope the information helps any prospective buyer of this door.

Door model: Thermogard 9600
Opener: Wayne-Dalton iDrive
Dealer: Economy Overhead Doors -- Canoga Park, CA
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